http://numenor.forumotion.net/feed/? Latest topics Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:19:32 GMT 10 http://illiweb.com/fa/subsilver/logo_en.gif http://numenor.forumotion.net/feed/? http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/honor-and-departure-t42.htm C3Aragorn Well guys, I have always tried to lead with honor. After losing my main town, and now being farmed even out in Numenor... I have no way to advance in this game, and so I cannot continue to spend my time in this way. Thanks for being a faithful part of this alliance... I hope you all find other alliances to join in this server and in future ones. Thanks for the honor of leading you. I am going to end my account to ensure the guys farming me stop getting resources. Good bye. Numenor Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:19:32 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/honor-and-departure-t42.htm#85 http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/honor-and-departure-t42.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/leaving-the-alliance-t41.htm cuschnir I'm sorry guys, but I think I'm leaving Numenor. I'm getting farmed by 4 RaG members and 1 ReV member, just so you know the size of my problems. I've asked for help in the forum, but none came. I am too far away from the rest of the alliance. Members are quitting all the time, numenor went for a wing way too soon, and I've seen nothing done succesfully here. I am leaving, but with no hard feelings. Numenor Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:31:48 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/leaving-the-alliance-t41.htm#84 http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/leaving-the-alliance-t41.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/rest-in-pieces-t35.htm FourEyes Hey, it looks like our alliance is dieing, or is that just my imagination? Numenor Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:14:59 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/rest-in-pieces-t35.htm#74 http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/rest-in-pieces-t35.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-on-19th-january-t40.htm Phlox

Down to 156 Phalanxes...]]> Troop Counts Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:41:29 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-on-19th-january-t40.htm#82 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-on-19th-january-t40.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troop-count-january-18th-t39.htm guthix9860 1 Hero 50 Praetorians 12 Equites Legati 20 Equites Imperatoris 24 Equites Caesaris Armoury "i bet you guys have better upgrades luckies" Legionnaire (Level 1) 1635|1395|2540|765| 3:15:28 improve Praetorian (Level 3) 2425|3060|4000|1970| 6:06:31 too few resources Imperian (Level 0) 1150|1220|1670|720| 2:09:32 improve Equites Legati (Level 0) 540|610|170|220| 1:39:19 improve Equites Imperatoris (Level 2) ... Troop Counts Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:54:34 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troop-count-january-18th-t39.htm#81 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troop-count-january-18th-t39.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/battle-speech-t37.htm guthix9860 one of you is worth more than any number of them! Skill and valour still count for something in war! They are worth less than the dirt beneath a toenail! Today is a good day to die! Today is a great day to meet our God! So let us send the enemy screaming to meet their Gods today! Victory is near at hand! If all do their duty, it will be OUR victory! Bend your backs to your tasks, and all will be well! We go now to our bloody business. And remember this above all: our Numenorian ... Vengence List Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:12:29 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/battle-speech-t37.htm#78 http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/battle-speech-t37.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/tithes-f10/need-to-build-a-new-army-t38.htm guthix9860 if you want you can send me resources since regnawargod wiped most of my troops out im rebuilding it now as you read he is a gaul a pathetic dirty babarian that shall die you should be able to figure out which troops are which as in type Attacker regnawargod from the village WarGods_Island Troops 0 550 0 75 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Casualties 0 129 0 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Bounty 1328 3613 3292 14987 Defender guthix9860 from the village Isle of Elenna ... Tithes Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:09:17 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/tithes-f10/need-to-build-a-new-army-t38.htm#79 http://numenor.forumotion.net/tithes-f10/need-to-build-a-new-army-t38.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/a-new-list-t36.htm huckabeast Hey Friends, The once fair city of The Shuddering Wood has been reduced a few smoldering piles of rubble (and a perfectly healthy stable.) My warriors, and the many brave souls you sent fought with courage and slew many 'err they embarked with quiet courage into that great night. We will little note what I say here, but we cannot - we must not - forget their sacrifice, or deafen our ears to their cry which echoes from eternity itself to our own minds and hearts today. That cry is: "let ... Vengence List Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:14:24 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/a-new-list-t36.htm#75 http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/a-new-list-t36.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/mon-f7/enhanced-improvement-t34.htm guthix9860
c3arragorn we are catching up to you in numbers ]]> M.O.N Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:48:24 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/mon-f7/enhanced-improvement-t34.htm#73 http://numenor.forumotion.net/mon-f7/enhanced-improvement-t34.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/december-31st-troop-count-have-a-happy-new-year-t33.htm guthix9860 1 Hero (imperian) Offense 385 (+) 4 Defense 235/165 (+) 3 Off-Bonus 0% (+) 0 Def-Bonus 0.2% (+) 1 Regeneration 10/Day (+) 2 100 Praetorians 7 Equites Legati 20 Equites Imperatoris 1 Settler blacksmith Legionnaire (Level 0) 940|800|1460|440| 1:56:28 improve Praetorian (Level 3) 2425|3060|4000|1970| 6:20:12 improve Imperian (Level 1) 2000|2125|2910|1255| 3:53:58 improve Equites Legati (Level 1) 940|1060|295|385| ... Troop Counts Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:43:04 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/december-31st-troop-count-have-a-happy-new-year-t33.htm#72 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/december-31st-troop-count-have-a-happy-new-year-t33.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/help-me-from-hoth-t32.htm jitendra hi there, this Keyser Soze from the village Hoth has been attacking and destroyed my granary and cropland please help me out with this before he will ruin everything . he had convey a message to me Unfortunately, you are in a bad area and our alliance is gonna clear everyone out of this area. I typically restrain from attacking smaller players that make reasonable requests, but this is a strategic area for our endgame. So these attacks will only get worse. I am sorry for the fact you are ... Parties Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:06:23 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/help-me-from-hoth-t32.htm#68 http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/help-me-from-hoth-t32.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/my-troops-t10.htm Razkar
80 phalanxes
30 pathfinders
10 druidriders

At Arabasta:

0 troops at the time (it's a new village)]]> Troop Counts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:37:10 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/my-troops-t10.htm#21 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/my-troops-t10.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/new-members-f4/be-sure-and-try-and-post-to-the-forum-here-t2.htm C3Aragorn ]]> New Members Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:19:43 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/new-members-f4/be-sure-and-try-and-post-to-the-forum-here-t2.htm#2 http://numenor.forumotion.net/new-members-f4/be-sure-and-try-and-post-to-the-forum-here-t2.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/help-from-hoth-t31.htm jitendra hi there, this Keyser Soze from the village Hoth has been attacking and destroyed my granary and cropland please help me out with this before he will ruin everything . he had convey a message to me Unfortunately, you are in a bad area and our alliance is gonna clear everyone out of this area. I typically restrain from attacking smaller players that make reasonable requests, but this is a strategic area for our endgame. So these attacks will only get worse. I am sorry for the fact you are ... Vengence List Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:53:13 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/help-from-hoth-t31.htm#67 http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/help-from-hoth-t31.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/helping-out-t30.htm guthix9860 i am planning an attack on the ppl who are farming off of the M.O.N meembers (only the ones that i can handle) when i do this it might take awhile but i've sent warnings out so i don't get in a big mess i'd appreciate it if ppl could send resources to me so i can build for calvary ever since ayvengo from judge x attacked except i beat him ownage he defeated most of my calvary this was his troops 132 club swingers and 250 axe men i lost 23 imperotoris and 16 praetorians 8 imperians he got away ... Vengence List Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:37:00 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/helping-out-t30.htm#66 http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/helping-out-t30.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/mon-f7/production-of-mon-t28.htm guthix9860 ]]> M.O.N Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:55:15 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/mon-f7/production-of-mon-t28.htm#62 http://numenor.forumotion.net/mon-f7/production-of-mon-t28.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/dec-23rd-troop-count-t29.htm guthix9860 1 Hero lvl1(imperian)waiting for him to die so i can replace him with calvary Offense 385 (+) 4 Defense 235/165 (+) 3 Off-Bonus 0% (+) 0 Def-Bonus 0.2% (+) 1 Regeneration 10/Day (+) 2 lost all imperians defending my base from ayvengo he's part of the judges unforunatly but i beat him 85 Praetorians 3 Equites Legati 20 Equites Imperatoris settler coming soon merry christmas Troop Counts Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:11:59 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/dec-23rd-troop-count-t29.htm#64 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/dec-23rd-troop-count-t29.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/need-reinforcements-urgently-t27.htm NAKIB Hello, a guy(leopareek) just threatened of destroying my village and has sent 80 catas from his friend (Syde) who is 44 hrs away. So i urgently need reinforcements in my village before they arrive! thank you Parties Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:57:59 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/need-reinforcements-urgently-t27.htm#58 http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/need-reinforcements-urgently-t27.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/in-desperate-need-for-help-revenge-t19.htm cuschnir I want revenge on a guy who is a teuton. he keeps raiding me with 80 clubswingers and 80 TK, making it pointless for me to train troops because he raids every 2 hours and kills all my troops. I have 4 crannies lvl 10 but he always gets bounty, I can't stop him because we are in different time zones so he attacks mostly when I'm sleeping. only problem is, he is in the alliance RaG(top 10, I think).His name is clodovech.Also, is it worth it to build more crannies, or have i gone too far maxing ... Vengence List Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:53:02 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/in-desperate-need-for-help-revenge-t19.htm#35 http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/in-desperate-need-for-help-revenge-t19.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/christmas-list-f9/1st-is-the-worst-2nd-is-the-best-t23.htm FourEyes I want to obtain, at least, the second place position in the alliance rankings by Christmas and it seems as if I am well on my way to accomplishing that goal. Watch out, here I come!!! Christmas List Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:59:40 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/christmas-list-f9/1st-is-the-worst-2nd-is-the-best-t23.htm#45 http://numenor.forumotion.net/christmas-list-f9/1st-is-the-worst-2nd-is-the-best-t23.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/i-need-a-party-in-my-village-t26.htm cuschnir I am getting farmed by a guy named clodovech, he is about 2 hours away from my village, but he keeps saying that I'm not far away, I sent him some IGMs and here's what he replied: If you haven't noticed this is the way the game is played... I need resources and I raid for them (and no, you are not far away) Before I messaged him he attacked about 1 or 2 times a day, but now he's attacking as often as he can, sometimes with 80/140 clubswingers, some with 100 TK. So I don't know if i ... Parties Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:44:28 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/i-need-a-party-in-my-village-t26.htm#52 http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/i-need-a-party-in-my-village-t26.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/party-at-the-shuddering-wood-t25.htm C3Gideyon
send troops and enough crop for a day (amnt. of crop/hr)x24 to The Shuddering Wood at (-103,27)

[be masters at peace and war]
|\/\/\/\/\/| GIDEYON |\/\/\/\/\/|]]> Parties Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:12:18 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/party-at-the-shuddering-wood-t25.htm#48 http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/party-at-the-shuddering-wood-t25.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/might-of-numenor-ii-t24.htm FourEyes Right now we have a pretty large number of people in the main Numenor branch. I propose that we split (anyone under 250 in population) into another branch. What does everyone else think? Is anyone interested in heading up M.O.N. 2? Numenor Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:03:54 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/might-of-numenor-ii-t24.htm#46 http://numenor.forumotion.net/numenor-f6/might-of-numenor-ii-t24.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/we-can-do-it-read-it-and-not-only-t20.htm Travian Monitor Hey people!!! THIS IS A WW STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE TO APPLY IN THIS WORLD TO SURVIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are NOT their farms. I have a plan that everyone should follow. I dont know each players exact location, but that is not so important. I have a 15 crop village. It's coordinates are:(-63|183). I am getting this village because is far from all RONIN families (exception is TaoJones, but he is my friend!) Pay attention. I want everyone to get me exact time that merchants and troops arrive ... Vengence List Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:43:19 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/we-can-do-it-read-it-and-not-only-t20.htm#38 http://numenor.forumotion.net/vengence-list-f5/we-can-do-it-read-it-and-not-only-t20.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/december-13-troop-count-t22.htm guthix9860 1 Hero (imperian hero) lvl0
50 Praetorians
30 Imperians
1 Equites Legati
20 Equites Imperatoris
]]> Troop Counts Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:25:45 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/december-13-troop-count-t22.htm#43 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/december-13-troop-count-t22.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/dec10-troop-count-t21.htm guthix9860 1 Hero
30 Praetorians
30 Imperians
1 Equites Legati
13 Equites Imperatoris]]> Troop Counts Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:17:49 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/dec10-troop-count-t21.htm#41 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/dec10-troop-count-t21.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/san-siro-troop-count-t14.htm Dhirar 48 leg
56 prae
19 imp
2 el
9 ei
6 ec
1 hero
after the battle 0
now i am waiting a raid from [?] then i will rebuild my army]]> Troop Counts Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:51:44 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/san-siro-troop-count-t14.htm#25 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/san-siro-troop-count-t14.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/christmas-list-f9/my-christmas-list-hmmmmm-t15.htm guthix9860 i need more crops and to do that i need at least 1200 of every resource it would be appreciated but at least 300 of each resource would be good enough awesome o ya my lol! army Christmas List Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:35:40 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/christmas-list-f9/my-christmas-list-hmmmmm-t15.htm#26 http://numenor.forumotion.net/christmas-list-f9/my-christmas-list-hmmmmm-t15.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-in-greentown-and-salinas-t7.htm C3Gideyon Villages: • Greentown (-53|116) Before recent major battle: 1 Hero 115 Spearmen 5 scouts 132 axemen 130 Paladins Rebuilt after recent battle: 1 Hero 100 Spearmen 0 Scouts 2 Axemen 40 Paladins • Salinas (-306|296) ... Troop Counts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:18:31 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-in-greentown-and-salinas-t7.htm#17 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-in-greentown-and-salinas-t7.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/mrromantic-s-troops-t17.htm MrRomantic 46 Phalanxes
20 Swordsmen
too weak, right?]]> Troop Counts Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:22:49 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/mrromantic-s-troops-t17.htm#29 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/mrromantic-s-troops-t17.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/schnarglepplatchhz-troop-count-12-5-08-t16.htm Yabangy12 1 HEROOOOOO00000oooooooooo.....]]> Troop Counts Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:30:16 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/schnarglepplatchhz-troop-count-12-5-08-t16.htm#27 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/schnarglepplatchhz-troop-count-12-5-08-t16.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/huckabeast-s-troop-counts-12-5-08-t13.htm huckabeast 100 Phalanxes
55 Swordman
35 Pathfinders
10 Theutate Thunders
10 Druidriders

Flooz.
none. yet.]]> Troop Counts Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:54:46 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/huckabeast-s-troop-counts-12-5-08-t13.htm#24 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/huckabeast-s-troop-counts-12-5-08-t13.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/phlox-l9-ff-1-troop-count-t12.htm Phlox 68 Swordsmen
43 Theutates Thunders

Ofcourse at your disposal when needed ]]> Troop Counts Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:17:31 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/phlox-l9-ff-1-troop-count-t12.htm#23 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/phlox-l9-ff-1-troop-count-t12.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/behla-donna-troop-count-t11.htm Behla Donna 58 Legionnaires
34 Praetorians
5 Equites Legati

So... yeah. I'm also working on a Battering Ram. ]]> Troop Counts Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:36:30 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/behla-donna-troop-count-t11.htm#22 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/behla-donna-troop-count-t11.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-in-salusa-secundus-t9.htm Doomhammer my troops Troop Counts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:33:34 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-in-salusa-secundus-t9.htm#19 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troops-in-salusa-secundus-t9.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/spartania-titania-t8.htm FourEyes -1 Hero
-1 Legionnaire
-1 Praetorian

And Titania...well, they are a peace loving people until provoked.

Basically, I lost a lot of troops when I conquered an oasis with Spartania and haven't felt a need to focus on military might since then. I am working on developing Titania at the moment, so most of the resources from both villages are going towards that.]]> Troop Counts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:33:28 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/spartania-titania-t8.htm#18 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/spartania-titania-t8.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/c3aragorn-troops-dec-08-week-1-t6.htm C3Aragorn
I currently have developing:

100 Praets located at -61|65 (1 - Rothinzil)
10 Leg located at -313|310 (2 - Meneltarma)]]> Troop Counts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:18:23 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/c3aragorn-troops-dec-08-week-1-t6.htm#16 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/c3aragorn-troops-dec-08-week-1-t6.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troop-count-guthix9860-t5.htm guthix9860 Troops: 1 Hero 5 Praetorians 20 Imperians 1 Equites Legati 4 Equites Imperatoris trying to build my calvary up if u can plz send resources Troop Counts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:14:25 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troop-count-guthix9860-t5.htm#15 http://numenor.forumotion.net/troop-counts-f13/troop-count-guthix9860-t5.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/swartikar-is-being-attacked-here-is-my-list-of-questions-t4.htm C3Aragorn Post your responses out on the forum so the whole alliance may help. How many level 10 crannies do you have. Who is attacking you, why? How many troops? What alliance are they in? Have you tried diplomacy? How much food are your producing beyond what you are using in an hour (this says how many troops you can receive without them dieing. How big of a grainery do you have (this shows how much grain we can send to prevent more troops from dieing. If we are going to be able to help we need a detailed ... Parties Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:29:38 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/swartikar-is-being-attacked-here-is-my-list-of-questions-t4.htm#12 http://numenor.forumotion.net/parties-f8/swartikar-is-being-attacked-here-is-my-list-of-questions-t4.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/new-members-f4/inviting-friends-t3.htm C3Aragorn Notice to everyone. I have already been doing this myself, but here is an exception to our population limit rule. If you know someone in real life, and invite them to play, let me know, and I will be glad to invite them to the alliance. New Members Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:20:00 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/new-members-f4/inviting-friends-t3.htm#6 http://numenor.forumotion.net/new-members-f4/inviting-friends-t3.htm http://numenor.forumotion.net/helpful-links-f1/your-first-subject-t1.htm C3Aragorn Take some time to read this information before starting to use the administration of your forum: How to access your administration panel ?In the top menu, click on Log In, a new page is displayed. Fill in the username "admin" and the password you have choosen during your registration. If you have lost or forgot it, click here. Once you are logged in, click on the link "Administration Panel" at the bottom of the page.How to modify your board's appearance ?You can modify your board's appearance ... Helpful Links Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:12:10 GMT http://numenor.forumotion.net/helpful-links-f1/your-first-subject-t1.htm#1 http://numenor.forumotion.net/helpful-links-f1/your-first-subject-t1.htm